Jeff Perrin - Sexier Than You Are

Arguments You’ll Almost Never Hear

Here's a bit of a cheeky question...

You know all those "conversations" us nerds have about scalability and performance where we endlessly debate about where to put business logic and whether scaling the database is easier than scaling the application servers? Well, how come we never end up talking about how to make arguably the most costly (in terms of both time and $$$) operation of our applications perform better?

The costly operation I'm talking about is the journey our markup makes from the web server to the browser. It's funny, because we'll architect fantastic applications, and then shove absolutely bloated junk markup across the vast, unreliable Internet without a second thought. That *** costs money too... (I'm talking about bandwidth). And it's code that's visible to the world.

Published Jun 06 2007, 09:35 PM by Jeff Perrin

Filed under: Development

Comments

PartialClass said:

Programmers are not responsible for wat designer has done.

Usually, controls don't render as bad markup as u r talking abt.

Yeah , but VERY poorly designed site can make this happen

# June 7, 2007 7:42 AM

Antoine Valot said:

PartialClass, I disagree. Most .NET controls render horrible, non-standards code, full of tables and spacers and other atrocities.

Heck, look at the source code of a sharepoint page! What a mess! And this is high-end commercial software!

# June 8, 2007 12:51 PM

expresso said:

Personally, I can't stand bad mark-up. I cannot stand upper case HTML (since not only is it not XMTML compliant for whatever future that contains, but also hard to read). I cannot stand no indentation when possible of tables (if using tables and not pure DIVs).

Now, that goes to say if you do not have a graphic designer that does all the mark-up layout. If you do, then obviously it's on them. Otherwise I feel the quality fo the mark-up is just as important and should be just as organized hopefully as your code-behind.

# June 8, 2007 2:10 PM

expresso said:

that was not XHTML compliant...I meant

# June 8, 2007 2:11 PM

About Jeff Perrin

Jeff is not an internationally (or even locally) known expert in anything related to software development. He holds no certifications worth speaking about, and didn't graduate from University. The value of anything written on his blog should be deemed suspect at the minimum, and blatantly false and misleading in the worst case. Don't let his innate sex appeal fool you... Jeff does not know anything about which he speaks.